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  Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.

  by Englishman in

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  i see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.

  also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.

  it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.

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  New Eyes

  Waiting, I have the new edition of COC.

  Ray Franz DOES go into the UN scandal and even devoted space to pictures of the letters Hawkaw got from the DPI.

  Ray Franz DOES NOT mention the pedophile problem in the organization. - bluesaphire

  Ray bears no personal responsibility in the UN issue, so he is free to talk about it. The pedophile problem is one in which he personally must bear responsibility for, so he cannot address it now can he.

  Trauma_Hound
  IW definitely has an agenda. Here we have an example of her attempt to hijack this thread, that has nothing to do with Bill, and use it to attack him in her continuing campaign.

  Edited by - New Eyes on 18 November 2002 21:7:29
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  Ray Franz And Things That Are Too Hard To Handle.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see that ray franz is coming in for a fair bit of criticism due to his apparrant unwillingness to accept that jw's had a problem with the existence of child abuse when he was a member of the gb.

  also, it would appear that ray is being chided for his belief in the rule of 2 witnesses before action can be taken against an abuser.

  it seems to me that it is quite likely that ray wasn't aware that there was a serious abuse problem within the society when he was a member of the gb, if only for the reason that ray would find such an activity so detestable that he would believe it to be a virtually impossible act for anyone to perpetrate.

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  New Eyes

  R.F.is a pedophile protecting disgruntled X-Cultleader!

   but wait we don't have 2 witness who came forward and can prove that Ray know anything, 

  right so he can't be "slandered"......... 

  wow sounds familiar. FU*K all pedophile protectors. He should have done to him what he had done to me!
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  Opinions on Christian Churches and tithing 10% inc

  by nowaytess in

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  i saw the thread on tbn, and felt this question was a good one to pose to the board.. .

  tithing is being preached more and more in many christian denominiations.

  a chrisitian is under obligation before anything else to give 10% of gross income to the church.

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  New Eyes

  What sect is "the Christian Church"?
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  Preaching the kingdom or what?

  by acsot in

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  i was at the meeting on sunday and one brother mentioned how jws are heeding the scripture at matthew 24:14, you know, about the kingdom being preached, and he said how in every corner of the world jws are now found and it's a fulfillment of the scripture.

  then the thought struck me that if that were true, then when people think of jws they should think "god's kingdom".

  not in my experience, as when going from door to door or what colleagues at work have said.

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  New Eyes

  A small Christian "like" cult................ but mostly they don't think about Jaws at all.
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  Christmas Aint Jesus's Birthday

  by comforter in

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  jesus was not born on december 25. that is not his birthday.

  why is this day observed as jesus's birthday?

  because some christians thought it was fine to mingle christianity with paganism.

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  New Eyes

  So there is no evidence showing the 25th is not Jesus' birthday, just a common agreement that the 25 was a significant day before Jesus was born on it. Wow maybe I should just go back to the Borg I never get enough bull shit clams like this one, with no evidence. I know, maybe the Catholics hid the evidence in there underground evidence hiding room with the rest of the WT support.

  I refuse to take a clim at face value any more! Never again. is there no evidence? None was posted except bull "we all know" statements.

  We all know we were force feed bull for so long we are halve full of it. I need to see outside sources.
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  Christmas Aint Jesus's Birthday

  by comforter in

  1. jw
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  jesus was not born on december 25. that is not his birthday.

  why is this day observed as jesus's birthday?

  because some christians thought it was fine to mingle christianity with paganism.

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  New Eyes

  I am interested in seeing any evidence that Christmas is not Jesus' birthday. Is it only because the day has significance outside of the Christian calendar?

  I have only read about this in the WT published rags. Were can I find a more reliable source of info?
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  2002 Newsday Top 40 Private Companies ($$$)

  by Funchback in

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  2. current

  http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-nyblurba2935802sep23(0,4425582).story?coll=ny%2dbusiness%2dprint .

  for the full list, click the above (or cut and paste into your browser) link.

  this list is limited to compnaies located in nyc.

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  How many widows and orphans can you help with that much money?
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  The congregation witch hunt!

  by kenpodragon in

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  has anyone ever studied the salem witch hunts and trails.

  what i found interesting about these, is how people who claimed to be peaceful, could get so riled up, that they were willing to kill people.

  the spark that lit the fire was often a rumor or false accusations that got out of hand, or perhaps a misunderstanding on a issue or people thinking they saw something they didn't.

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  New Eyes

  The inquisition what a show
  it is really bitching here we go

  Edited by - New Eyes on 4 October 2002 10:2:40
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  Will my JW wife and son get into trouble for this?

  by dmouse in

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  some of you may remember my son's struggle with his beliefs about a year ago.

  benjamin was brought up as a jw and was heavily involved, used extensively on the platform as a good jw role model.

  however, about a year ago (when he was 13) he started to have doubts and went through a cycle of depression, even contemplating suicide.

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  New Eyes

  That depends on what you consider trouble, the inquisition has already started, It won't be getting better that's for sure.
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  Superman's quote 'bout JW's

  by orphanannie in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=579&e=1&cid=638&u=/nm/20020917/en_nm/health_superman_dc

  "there are religious groups -- the jehovah's witness, i believe -- who think it's a sin to have a blood transfusion.

  well, what if the president for some reason decided to listen to them, instead of to the catholics, which is the group he really listens to in making his decisions about embryonic stem cell research?

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  New Eyes

  are old wimen in comas alive? Lets check shall we.

  SO, with that in mind:

  1) Can they grow? (NO) reproduce? (NO) Oops - already it doesn't meet the scientific definition of life. Well, let's keep going..
  2) Do they ingest resources for their own use? (NO)
  3) Respond to stimuli? (NO)
  4) Acts in a way to ensure self-preservation? (NO)
  5) Significantly different from surrounding environment? (a YES here)
  So, of the 5 'yes' needed to identify them as a SEPARATE LIVING ORGANISM....an old ladies in comas gets 1.
  

  There you have it she is not alive. proof positive.